Library Juice 1:3 - February 4, 1998
Contents: 1-6 from the Internic Scout Report 1. WordNet - Lexical Reference System. 2. DOD Dictionary of Military Terms 3. State of the Union Addresses Past and Present 4. Harappa 5. The Great Movies - Roger Ebert 6. Technical Management of Internet Names and Addresses 7. Website: Filtering and Censorware in Libraries (Chuck Munson's) 8. Resources in Information Management 9. Onomastics Page (study of names) 10. Videotapes from 1997 Internet Librarian Conference 11. DIGITAL PRESERVATION ISSUES 12. ALA Spectrum Initiative 13. Women's Speeches from Around the World 14. Copyright Bill - Action Alert 15. Call for Papers - Socioeconomic Aspects of Electronic Publishing 16. Library Journal News Brief on Munson's Anti-Filtering Site 17. Munson's Reaction to LJ News Brief 18. Chuck Munson Rebuts Enemy-of-Freedom David Burt 19. Editor's Note _____________________________________________________________________ 1. WordNet [Frames] http://www.cogsci.princeton.edu/~wn/ WordNet is a powerful lexical reference system that combines aspects of dictionaries and thesauri with current psycholinguistic theories of human lexical memory. It is produced by the Cognitive Science Laboratory at Princeton University, under the direction of Professor George Miller. In WordNet, words are defined and grouped into various related sets of synonyms. Not only is the system valuable to the casual user as a powerful thesaurus and dictionary, but also to the researcher as one of the few freely available, lexical databases. WordNet is available via an on-line interface and also as easy-to-compile C source code for Unix. [CL] _____________________________________________________________________ 2. DOD Dictionary of Military Terms http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/doddict/ The US Department of Defense Defense Technical Information Center provides this handy dictionary, derived from Joint Publication 1-02, "DOD Dictionary of Military and Associated Terms." Users can browse the dictionary alphabetically or search it. Definitions are terse but clear. Cross references are provided but, unfortunately, not hyperlinked at this time. The dictionary also contains both terms and acronyms & abbreviations. The latter two can be browsed or searched separately from a link on the dictionary page. [JS] _____________________________________________________________________ 3. State of the Union Addresses--Past and Present [RealPlayer] http://www.whitehouse.gov/WH/SOTU98/ Presidential Speeches and Writings http://odur.let.rug.nl/~usa/P/ President Clinton's State of the Union Message, delivered January 27, 1998, is available in both text and RealPlayer formats at the White House site. The White House has also posted a useful collection of background materials relating to the main themes of the President's address. For Internauts who would like to place this year's speech in historical perspective, the presidents index at George Welling's From Revolution to Reconstruction site (discussed in the February 9, 1996 Scout Report) offers the full text of a number of selected State of the Union messages by previous presidents. [MD] ____________________________________________________________________ 4. Harappa [QuickTime, RealPlayer] http://www.harappa.com/welcome.html No Frames: http://www.harappa.com/welcomenf.html Harappa was a city in the Indus Valley civilization that flourished around 2,500 B.C. in the western part of South Asia. This site, produced by Omar Khan, contains a number of items related to the study of this ancient city, including a 90-slide tour of the Indus Valley and 3-D computer recreations of the city's gateway and surrounding topography. The site also offers a large number of audio and visual resources concerning pre-1947 South Asia in general. Users can browse 130 historical photos via a city index or active map, view a selection of lithographs, postcards, and engravings, and view a number of newsreels in QuickTime format. Although only nine newsreels and archival films are currently available, the site plans to eventually offer 50 in honor of South Asia's 50 years of independence. Additional offerings include several rare amateur color movies filmed c.1940, RealAudio recordings by several prominent historical figures, and a wonderful collection of reflections in audio, video, and text formats by Princess Abida Sultaan of Bhopal, a contemporary of many of the leaders of the independence movement. [MD] ____________________________________________________________________ 5. The Great Movies--Roger Ebert http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/old_movies/old_movies.html Roger Ebert, well known _Chicago Sun Times_ and syndicated television film reviewer, admits "movie history did not begin in 1967, but my career as a movie critic did." A prolific reviewer of new movies (discussed in the May 3, 1996 Scout Report--http://scout.cs.wisc.edu/scout/report/archive/scout-960503.html#14), he has now made available a growing collection of reviews of classic movies. At present there are 37 reviews available, covering various genres and time periods. Included are _Ali: Fear Eats the Soul_, _The Passion of Joan of Arc_, _M_, _Written On the Wind_, _The Wizard of Oz_, and _Ikiru_, among others. All reviewed films are available on home video. This is a biweekly feature, and for those who love classic movies, there is no better place to enjoy a guided tour by a kindred soul. [JS] ____________________________________________________________________ 6. Technical Management of Internet Names and Addresses http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/domainname130.htm This is a "proposed rule of the [US] Department of Commerce," in discussion draft format. It will appear shortly in its official form in the _Federal Register_. The draft is available in HTML, text, and WordPerfect .zipped format. Comments on the draft can be sent to the email address listed at the site and will be posted on the web. The draft calls for four main principles for a new domain name system: "stability; competition; private, bottom-up coordination; and representation." [JS] ____________________________________________________________________ 7. Website: Filtering and Censorware in Libraries Some encouraging news. If you are still fence-sitting on the censorware/filtering issue and want to see some anti-filtering viewpoints, check out: Filtering and Censorware in Libraries http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/7382/index.html Chuck Munson ___________________________________________________________________ 8. Resources in Information Management There are a few items on my home page that may be of interest: 1. An article, "Evaluating Internet Research Sources," is designed to help students come to grips with the wide range of quality of information on the Internet. http://www.sccu.edu/faculty/R_Harris/evalu8it.htm 2. "Biases Affecting Information Processing" describes some of the factors that distort the influence of information we encounter. (For example, more recent information tends to have more influence on us that information acquired earlier.) http://www.sccu.edu/faculty/R_Harris/infobias.htm 3. "Internet Search Tips and Strategies" is another article for students, offering some advice in how to find information. My favorite is "guess a URL," which has saved me much time laboring over search engines. http://www.sccu.edu/faculty/R_Harris/howlook.htm 4. I also have a collection of hyperlinked resources, "World Wide Web Research Tools," that lists engines, directories, indexes, a few archive-searchable newspapers, and other items. http://www.sccu.edu/faculty/R_Harris/search.htm I call your attention to Fedstats (statistics from 70 US governement agencies) and Encylopedia.com, with 17,000 very brief entries (these are my newest finds, though they may be old hat to you). Please feel free to link to your page or site any of these items you find useful. I look forward to sharing in the future. --Bob ____________________________________________________________________ 9. Onomastics Page (study of names) Dear Dr. McGoff, Today the onomastics collection is online. Would you please put the link reference on the listserve and also the webpage for ANS? Here's hoping that this will be of assistance to everyone. Thank you very much. The site is: http://www.utep.edu/~library/onomast.html Yours truly, Roberta Arney for Lurline Coltharp (website for the American Name society: http://ssie.binghamton.edu/admin/anshomep.html -Rory) _____________________________________________________________________ 10. Videotapes from 1997 Internet Librarian Conference The 1997 Internet Librarian Conference and Expo for Librarians and Information Managers was held in Monterey, Ca. Nov. 17-19. Over 45 sessions were held, over 100 dynamic speakers presenting the latest developments embracing Internet, Intranet and Extranet strategies and Technologies for information mangers/librarians. This tapes they may be purchased individually or as a set! You may order by phone, fax, e-mail or mail!! All tapes were professionally recorded and run from 75 to 90 minutes each!! Delivery time is within (10) days, we accept PO. Visa, Mastercard, Check, MO!! If you would like to receive an order form, please e-mail or fax or call with your address and we will fax or mail the order form to you imediately!! Thank You Conference Audio Services fax: 510-633-0929 tel: 510-562-9731 e-mail: conaudio[at]aol.com ___________________________________________________________________ 11. DIGITAL PRESERVATION ISSUES: An Important Conversation "TIME AND BITS: Managing Digital Continuity" <http://www.ahip.getty.edu/timeandbits/intro.html> As more of the cultural heritage community understands the urgency of digital preservation issues (how do we save existing digital material that is already proving to be unreadable and how do we prepare a strategy for ensuring the long-term availability of material we are now digitizing?) one group is preparing to expand the conversation beyond the merely technical and technological. This week, the Getty Center will host a small group that will open a discussion on "technology, culture, and time," that will examine the sociocultural and economic implications of the digital preservation issues. The ambition of the conversation is to "provide a framework for long-term digital cultural preservation." Those included in the conversation include the following: Howard Besser Stewart Brand Doug Carlston Ben Davis John Heilemann Danny Hillis Brewster Kahle Kevin Kelly Jaron Lanier Peter Lyman Margaret MacLean Paul Saffo Bruce Sterling This project is being co-organized by the Getty Conservation Institute, the Getty Information Institute and the Long Now Foundation of San Francisco. The web site announcing the conversation and the issues will report on the dialog. It also contains a very useful list of web resources on digital preservation issues at <http://www.ahip.getty.edu/timeandbits/links.html>. SEE ALSO "PaperPersists: Why Physical Library Collections Still Matter"--_Online_http://www.onlineinc.com/onlinemag/JanOL98/crawford1.html This article, provided by Walt Crawford of the Research Libraries Group in _Online's_ January 1998 issue, makes a powerful argument that paper will continue to be an indispensible information medium in the forseeable future for both libraries and people in general. Among its conclusions: future information will be available in paper, electronic, linear and hypertext formats, and libraries will continue to be important as repositories of, as well as gateways to knowledge and information. Crawford, a well known philosopher of librarianship, has expanded on similar ideas in _Future libraries: Dreams, Madness & Reality_, a book he wrote with Michael Gorman in 1995. [JS] (review from Internic Scout Report) ___________________________________________________________________ 12. ALA Spectrum Initiative http://www.ala.org/spectrum ALA Spectrum Initiative - In 1998 the Spectrum Initiative will award 50 scholarships of $5,000 each. Program designed to encourage four largest underrepresented groups to enter MLS programs recognized by ALA and succeed to graduation. -- African American or African Canadian; Asian or Pacific Islander; Latino or Hispanic; Native People of the US or Canada ___________________________________________________________________ 13. Women's Speeches from Around the World http://ripley.wo.sbc.edu/departmental/library/gos/ Gifts of Speech: Women's Speeches From Around the World - speeches made by influential contemporary women. __________________________________________________________________ 14. Copyright Bill - Action Alert Forwarded to the srrtac-l list by Melissa Riley Important missive forwarded from an archivist. Please act! If you're like me, reading about copyright legislation is about as exciting as watching an infomercial about cellulite. But please read, because your help is sorely needed. I was fortunate to be able to attend a meeting of the Digital Future Coalition on Monday in Washington as a council member of SAA. The meeting concerned strategy to support the Ashcroft/Boucher-Campbell bill (S 1146 and HR 3048), known on the House side as the Digital Era Copyright Enhancement Act . President Bill Maher sent a detailed message earlier about this action to Archives and Archivist List and the SAA Leadership list (see his text at http://digital.lib.umn.edu/leg/ABC.html . I want to reissue the call for help because that the leaders of this effort said that letters from constituents over the next three weeks are likely to mean the difference between the bill proceeding or dying. Among other features, the Ashcroft/Boucher-Campbell bills strike a good balance between rights holders, users, libraries, and archives in the current copyright act rather than focusing on punitive measures and criminalization of behaviors. There is clear support of the principles of fair use for the educational and scholarly use of conventional and digital information. The Ashcroft/Boucher-Campbell legislation is opposite a bill being pushed by the White House and certain commercial interests. From an archivist's perspective, the administration's bill is poor legislation. It has no ending date for copyright protection, so copyright continues so long as there is a market for a product. This means that the Ashcroft/Boucher-Campbell bill needs as many co-sponsors as possible, especially from the Democratic side of the isle. This bill needs you to write your senators and representative to urge them to become of co-sponsor of S or HR. It's this simple: --1. Write a one-page letter or email to your two senators and on representative beginning with "I am an archivist in your district and urge you to co-sponsor S 1146 [or HR 3048 if you're writing your Rep]. To get their address or email, see http://lcweb.loc.gov/global/legislative/congress.html . --2. Steal a paragraph from Maher's letter (http://digital.lib.umn.edu/leg/ABC.html) or ALA's ( http://www.ala.org/washoff/alawon/alwn6118.html ) and add something to personalize it (like "this bill is crucial to distance education" or "if this bill is defeated, it will be worse than the defeat of the Pack at the Superbowl"). --3. SEND IT, SEND IT, SEND IT! --4. If you can, fax a copy of the letter to 202/628-9227 or email a copy to info[at]hrrc.org. This will help the Digital Future Coalition in their lobbying in Washington. But don't sweat this step if it will prevent you from writing. I was struck at this meeting of high-powered, Washington types by the fact that they all recognized the power of constituent mail. One person reported that they visited a congressperson about the bill, who became interested in them because he had "received something about that from a librarian in his district." That's lobbying gold, my friends. You may never know that your letter did anything positive, but have faith, it will. ATTENTION ARCHIVISTS FROM ILLINOIS and WISCONSIN Turns out that Senators Durbin and Feingold are critical to the success of the Ashcroft/Boucher-Campbell bill. So if you are still blue over the Packers defeat, console yourself with the fact that you are in a special position to do good here. Remember, Packer fans, what happens when your defense tires too quickly! Questions? Send a note to Bill Maher (w-maher[at]ux1.cso.uiuc.edu), Susan Fox (sfox[at]archivists.org), or me (bruce[at]itdean.umn.edu) -- Bruce H. Bruemmer Archivist, Charles Babbage Institute 612/625-9053 Coordinator, Digital Library Initiatives 612/624-2033 University of Minnesota Libraries 499 Wilson Library 309 19th Ave. S. Minneapolis, MN 55455 USA __________________________________________________________________ 15. Call for Papers - Socioeconomic Aspects of Electronic Publishing CALL FOR PAPERS SOCIOECONOMIC DIMENSIONS OF ELECTRONIC PUBLISHING WORKSHOP Meeting the Needs of the Engineering and Scientific Communities Sponsored by the National Science Foundation, the IEEE Foundation, the IEEE and the IEEE Computer Society In Cooperation with the 1998 IEEE International Conference on Advances in Digital Libraries Santa Barbara, California April 23-25, 1998 The creation of scientific and technical knowledge is occurring at breakneck speed as we face the threshold of the 21st century. Our challenge lies in capturing this information, transferring it, maintaining and integrating it so that its full value is realized and multiplied. Explosive growth in the domain of electronic communications, and specifically in the area of electronic publishing technologies, has been responsive to this challenge. At present, technology providers propose alternative solutions, while scientists, engineers, and publishers evaluate their utility through trial and error. Through this iterative process, both sides have moved forward, but face much frustration in the gap between user demands and available software. For reasons not fully understood, information made available on-line is not heavily used despite these apparent demands. Critical issues remain: 1) What will emerge as the dominant design(s) of the "information package" of the future? 2) How do we resolve major obstacles to the creation and utilization of electronic documents? While opportunities abound for the discussion of the technical dimensions of these issues, socioeconomic dimensions are frequently overlooked even though the history of technological revolution suggests that these social and economic issues are the most problematic, and lie at the heart of meaningful technological change. Resolution of these issues requires a dialogue between stakeholders in the scientific and engineering publishing communities and the technology providers who aim to meet their needs. This Workshop is designed to provide a forum for this significant dialogue. WORKSHOP PHASE ONE In cooperation with the 1998 IEEE Advances in Digital Libraries Conference. For further information regarding this Conference, visit the website: www.alexandria.ucsb.edu/conferences/ADL98 PLENARY SESSION The Challenge of Electronic Publishing: Meeting the Needs of the Engineering and Scientific Communities (Speaker to be announced.) THREE SESSIONS WITH REFEREED PAPER PRESENTATIONS Session 1: Defining the Technical and Scientific "Information Package of the Future" Session 2: Obstacles to the Creation of Electronic Documents Session 3: Obstacles to the Utilization of Electronic Documents WORKSHOP PHASE TWO At the close of ADL '98, workshop attendees will be invited to participate in a working group session to: 1) Discuss the opportunities and obstacles raised through the ADL sessions; 2) Examine alternative solutions; 3) Formulate recommendations in support of the scientific and engineering communities; and 4) Contribute to the preparation of the final reports for the IEEE Foundation and for NSF. The theme for the session will be "Solutions at the Nexus: Where Stakeholders' Requirements and Technical Possibilities Meet". Major Topic 1: Obstacles to the Creation and Utilization of Electronic Documents Major Topic 2: Summaries and Recommendations- Social and Technical Solutions WORKSHOP PHASE THREE During the final session on Saturday, April 25, working groups will refine draft reports. Based on paper presentations, discussions, and breakout session interactions, participants will develop a series of recommendations designed to facilitate the adoption of successful strategies for electronic publishing. WE INVITE YOUR PARTICIPATION AT THIS WORKSHOP Please submit a one-page abstract for review and possible presentation during one of the parallel sessions outlined above. Abstracts are due by January 30, 1998. Notification of acceptance will be February 16. Papers are due on April 15. Accepted papers will be published in the IEEE/NSF Workshop proceedings. Individuals with special interest in this area and who have received their undergraduate degrees in the last decade are encouraged to respond. In such cases, financial support for travel may be available. For further information, please contact: Dr. Christine Nielsen, Associate Professor Crummer Graduate School of Rollins College, 1000 Holt Avenue - 2722 Winter Park, Florida 32789-4499 Phone (407) 646-2146 or Fax (407) 646-1550 christine.nielsen[at]Rollins.Edu Dr. Joseph Herkert, Assistant Professor Division of Multidisciplinary Studies North Carolina State University Raleigh, North Carolina 27695 Phone (919) 515-7997 or Fax (919) 515-1828 j.herkert[at]ieee.org . ___________________________________________________________________ 16. Library Journal News Brief on Munson's Anti-Filtering Site Fowarded from Library Journal Digital: http://www.bookwire.com/ljdigital/leadnews.articles?date=current Anti-filtering Web Site Founder Fesses Up (February 2, 1998) Thanks to a thread on the ALA Office for Intellectual Freedom listserv, the founder of a recently established web site, Stop Filtering and Censorware in Libraries, has unmasked himself. After Chuck Munson, a computer specialist at Science magazine, recommended the site in one post, "Net Mom" Jean Armour Polly criticized both the site's content and its anonymity. Munson responded that he was responsible for the site, with the help of some others, and expects to update it: "In fact, I would like to see a grassroots campaign develop to get filters out of libraries, so this site is a service to those activists." Added Munson, who runs the Anarchist Librarians Web, "I have no interest in promoting my name, an organization, or whatever." __________________________________________________________________ 17. Munson's Reaction to LJ News Brief (sent to ALA Office on Intellectual Freedom listserv) Heh, this is all pretty amusing and disturbing at the same time. It wasn't supposed to be a secret that I'm ONE of the people behind the site. I'm its webmaster, but not everything there has been written by me. The site has been around since, I think, last April or May. Since it has mostly been under construction and only one of the many projects I'm involved with, I haven't promoted it very heavily in libraryland. As a high-profile activist, I'm used to dealing with journalists, which is why I avoid talking with them. Some of you may remember last summer when a columnist for the Chicago Tribune used some of my private correspondence with him in one of his articles. I was pretty angry about that and could have pressed charges, but that isn't my style. Having learned my lesson, I now avoid emailing comments to reporters--they can't be trusted. Which is why I prefer to be anonymous when it comes to that site, although I recognize the value of promotion. The site is not about me or some organization with a trademarked name. When it came up on this list, I freely admitted that I was the web site's webmaster and that it is not funded by any outside organization. There's no big secret here. It's just a small web site with few visitors. No, what bothers me about the LJ news brief is the connection it makes between my freelance professional activities and my employer. Not only is that irrelevant, but it is malicious. I would laugh it off if I hadn't been publicly slandered two weeks ago in another forum by an idiot who thinks that I am a police informer. OK, maybe it's not malicious, but tieing my political activities with my place of employment smacks of McCarthyism. Even I have defended David Burt, my opponent, against people who have tried to tie his professional activities with his employer. David, as a professional librarian, has a right to express his point of views. We should not assume that he is talking for his library. My web site hasn't been outed by LJ, I have. The LJ article is generally accurate, but the tone leads readers to believe that I have been deliberately trying to mislead people. That isn't true. David Burt has known that I run the site and so have a few others. I emailed them and told them the URL. What has happened is that as a result of my spanking by NetMom, many more people are now aware that the site exists. Oh well, I guess I should milk this? Chuck0 These comments antit-copyright 1998. They may be freely distributed, except in commercial forums. ______________________________ Reply Separator Subject: Re: Munson Fesses Up Author: bennett[at]peacefire.org (Bennett Haselton) at Internet Date: 2/1/98 10:47 PM The article gives the impression that it was supposed to be a secret that Chuck maintained the site. I remember hearing that Chuck ran that Web page a long time before it came up on ALAOIF. Judging by Chuck's reaction to NetMom's comments, it sounded like he thought she already knew he was the webmaster anyway. Chuck, is there any truth to the LJDigital's report that this is was a big unmasking? At 08:40 PM 2/1/98 -0800, David_Burt[at]filteringfacts.org wrote: >Congrats Chuck! You got your first ink! Look at www.ljdigital.com, >and check "other news". "Munson Fesses Up". Oh well, at least they >didn't report that "Munson calls for sabatoge of libraries that >filters". > > >********************************************************************* >David Burt, Filtering Facts, HTTP://WWW.FILTERINGFACTS.ORG >David_Burt[at]filteringfacts.org > > __________________________________________________________________ 18. Chuck Munson Rebuts Enemy of Freedom David Burt David Burt wrote: >I'm optimistic that the current situation is mostly temporary growing >pains. I think that during the next decade "authority" will assert >itself in one way or another. There may be separate "channels" or >"zones" of the Internet where only more reliable sources and >publishers are permitted to publish. Then there could be "bozo >zones" where all the information is use-at-your-own-risk, and all the >pictures of Joe's cats will go. Wow, David, what a quote!! You've handed your head on a plate to your opponents. I'll have fun citing that quote. This is precisely the Internet future that myself and many others have been trying to prevent: a tiered system of Internet access and content. This is truly Orwellian and rest assured, many will fight against this bleak vision. I'm sorry, I don't want to surf an Internet which is controlled by Microsoft or Disney, any more than I want to get all of my "news" from tabloids like the Washington Post or New York Times. Dave, this is precisely why I consider myself an anti-authoritarian: I want to be able to determine for MYSELF what are reliable and good sources. Who would this authority be? Would Reuters and the New York Times be part of the authoritative zone and the DIY news sites relegated to the bozo zone? Let's see, the Washington Post and NY Times sites are currently consumed by gossip about how many blow jobs the president has had, whereas numerous alternative press sites are carrying information about poverty, the environment, labor issues, third world issues like Chiapas, the French unemployed, nuclear weapons, the Toronto bank occupation by students, the Liverpool dockers strike, and so on. Who's more authoritative? Which presses will be permitted to publish in this "non-Bozo" zone? Only Fortune 500 publishers? How about university presses? How about AK Press (www.akpress.org) and other small publishers? I think you don't understand that the Do-It-Yourself, "Bozo" quality of the Web is what has made it so popular to so many people. It's called freedom David, democracy too. It's what happens when people discover they now have an easy way to make their opinions known to other people, especially other people who are interested in those opinions. >It's asking too much of users to sort every source out for >themselves. Users need the option of receiving only pre-sorted, >pre-selected information, instead of one undistinguishable mass. You mean someone to do the thinking for them. Sure, there is a need for good guides to information, that's one thing librarians are good at. Why shouldn't users have the option to browse on their own? They certainly have had access to the mass of information available in books for some time. How is this any different? Yes, I agree that search engines turn up too much erroneous garbage, which makes them useless for normal research, not to mention trying to find sex info. Of course, I see nothing wrong with the library continuing to offer "bozo" sites. Gee, do I detect a note of cynicism here?? The campaign for filters not going according to plan? -- Chuck0 __________________________________________________________________ 19. Editor's note: I hope you enjoyed "LJ" #3, the Chuck Munson issue. I've been interested in this anarchist librarian stuff lately. I personally wish I had the faith in humanity to be an anarchist, but I don't. Wouldn't we all be much happier, if we had that faith in people's ability to be good to each other to that extent? If we could all have such a positive attitude about people, might we then actually not need government? I haven't got what it takes to be an anarchist but I definitely admire anarchism as a "political faith," and I think "anarchist web activist" is a nice "alternative library career" to put on your list. This has been Library Juice #3, a sifting of email of interest to librarians, with a share of issues-oriented stuff, from a left perspective. I send it out weekly, on Wednesdays. Pass items on to friends and associates. Email me with items for inclusion, suggestions (e.g. Not so long!), reactions, to unsubscribe, or just say to hello. __________________________________________________________________ Rory Litwin mailto:rlitwin[at]earthlink.net PO Box 720511 phone: (408) 286-6409 San Jose, CA 95172 http://home.earthlink.net/~rlitwin __________________________________________________________________
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